21/09/2010 9:30am
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Photo’s from WeatherWatch.co.nz and NewstalkZB reporter Malcolm Gayfer showing the catastrophic failure of Stadium Southland’s roof following heavy snow on Saturday.
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Karl Barkley on 5/10/2010 10:43am
Well I hate to say this but I’m please Nature brought this Building down as it was Built as a Death Trap waiting to Kill many but Luckily no one was hurt there must be a God !
I’m a General Engineer with over 30 years Trade Experience and I’ve held a 4711 welding Ticket several Times, and I can’t believe that this Huge Community Venue is now a Pile of Rubble . I have taken Photos which I have pondered over . I ask the Question if there was so much snow which was supposed to have brought the House down then Tell me Why 2 Trusses were still straight and in place . Change your focus to The Main Structure which I call the Bridge where the Blue Curtain once hung this Structure appears to be Held up with very Little in any form of Major Structure Underneath it . I have photos of 2 Concrete Post which measure 300mm X 400mm which appear to have Blown apart under Compression . I feel this Bridge Structure has collapsed bringing down all the Roof Structure which were all Held up by this one Main Bridge Structure. <>
I’ve also had a close look @ the Velodrome and I have Notified Simon Tokin ICC Building Regulations Manager on 5th Oct 2010 , That there are also several MAJOR FAULTS in the VELODROMES Construction and that it needs to be Closed down until repair work is Carried out . He said he would refer it on to the Councils Outside Civil Engineering Contractor to check out.
I Note that on Trusses No 2 & No12 that there are missing @ ( DETAIL – 36 ) 16 X M24 Gr 8.8 Bolts &
Approx 500 – 600mm of weld is missing @ ( F – F ) @ DETAIL – 28 on the same trusses , this welding may also be missing on some of the others if not on all.
Where the Trusses are fixed onto Channels @ ( F- F ) There are 6 X M20 Gr 8.8 > I ask why are these Main Bolts of the Smaller Size M20 & M22 when all others are M24 or Larger
There are also seriously Short M24 bolts @ (DETAIL – 5) on the North Eastern Corner and above on the Same Structure @ ( DETAIL – 4) there are 6 X M24 Bolts which have approx a 3mm gap between their Plates which is less than standard.
My Name is Karl Barkley and I’m Standing as a Candidate for The ICC and I consider what I have found is of the Poorest Standards for a Building which is suppose to be a Modern Building and supposedly Built to the Highest Standards as a Community Venue.
My Email sdsfarmsupplies@hotmail.com
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w on 19/09/2010 1:07am
lol only in Russia…oh wait hang on
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Southerner on 18/09/2010 9:22pm
A new new building such as this structure should never have failed under its first serious test of duress from snow loading. The province is known to have a big snow falls such as this every ten to fifteen years. All new buildings provincially are designed to withstand structural sheer forces from snow fall and earthquake.
Invercargill has many flat roofed buildings
1:The Warehouse
2:Mitre 10 Mega
3:Harvie Norman
4:Bond and Bond
5:Placemakers
6:Countdown
7:Pack N Save
That is to just name a few modern era buildings.The Windsor street New World Supermarket that had a structural roof collapse is a far older structure by comparison.
Stadium Southland is a complex designed to host major events( provincial national and international). The stadium has hosted major events that has seen thousands of people through its doors.
Fact: For this structure to collapse like a pack of cards at its first real snow load test “signals some very serious unacceptable building issues”. There has been a catastrophic structural or design flaw with this structure and during the building process there clearly has been substandard design or building practices or both.
Summary:
If it were the case that snow load was responsible for this structural failure then clearly all the above mentioned buildings would have collapsed already also.
I have a building based background and like most structural minded people nearly all will know that there has been a major unacceptable catastrophic failure for this building to just literally fold to the ground.
We need to know who is responsible for this building failure and ensure the rebuild does not have the structural flaws that fallen structure had.
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Guest on 18/09/2010 11:46pm
New Zealands Titantic
This building was known to be at high risk because of a part failure of the structure during construction. My understanding is that ongoing restrictions were imposed regarding use of the stadium during periods of high snow fall. Anotherwords, it was known to be a ticking time bomb.
Clearly a desgin expert got a ‘decimal point’ in the wrong place when doing the calc’s in the early days. Considering the potentail for loss of life due to this error (its a stadium after all) I am surprised that a ‘sticking plaster’ approch was used to solve what was a known design flaw.
This failure will be New Zealands Titantic. The fallout will involve ongoing reports, and it will become a lesson to all.
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Richard on 20/09/2010 12:18am
The natural reaction of the public is to expect a design fault when something collapses, but we may well find it was more complicated. I have a hard time imagining the two structural engineering firms could both stuff up the snow loading requirements on a major project to the extent of a catastrophic failure -although I’m sure it’s happened before. Perhaps the products specified weren’t installed? Perhaps what was installed wasn’t what it said it was? Anyone in the construction industry vaguely familiar with stadiums will know about the financial disaster that was Wembley Stadium where the specified steel wasn’t provided. Resulted in a massive lawsuit to untangle why substandard steel was allowed to be installed on site before it had to be replaced.
Despite Tim Shadbolt’s tirade sound bites to date and over the next week, it will be very interesting to see just how bullish the local council are once the investigation from the insurers gets into swing as the poor beggars will be no doubt implicated via the sign off process.
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