Hi Phil,

Regarding the current Climate Change debate, there is a question, which if you don’t answer, there is no rational basis whatsoever for taking any action whatsoever to make global warming go away.

That question, that they have never answered is this one:

“What is the ideal global mean surface temperature?”

Has anyone seen in the IPCC reports any estimate of what the ideal global mean surface temperature is, or in any scientific papers or in any of the pressure groups of what the ideal global mean surface temperature is?

That should tell you all that you need to know about whether this subject is an economic subject and a scientific subject, which is necessary for us to act, or whether it is a purely political subject in which the totalitarian faction have seized upon to try to make us feel guilty and to end up destroying western freedom, prosperity and independence.

That’s what it is all about. Clearly, if you don’t answer that question, there is no rational basis for action.

There are a variety of facts as to why earths climate changes but if one does their basic research its the sun that is responsible for driving the climate.
Solar cycles have maximum and minimum periods of 11 years plus repeating cycles of 200 and 400 years. Research will show the effect these cycles have on our planet especially in relation to sun spot activity and our magnetic field in relation to cosmic radiation. (Jet streams have broken down )
NASA had a web page up explaining how the sun drives our climate which now can’t be accessed ( taken down in 2011 because it didn’t fit global warming carbon tax theory ) however they show the solar cycles and the minimum we are entering.
We are at the end of solar cycle 24 and cold weather records are being broken all across the Northern hemisphere especially in America where polar weather is 10 weeks earlier then normal. UK and Europe are colder with polar weather.
For further research on this subject ” Maunders minimum ” Dalton minimum ”
Little ice ages.
You tube, Adapt 2030.

Congratulations to at least 49% of Kiwis, they at least have common sense! The truth about the ever changing climate is being totally ignored by the so called 11,000 plus “CLIMATE SCIENTISTS”, who the protesters seem determined to follow, along with the illogical mantra of their founder, Marxist Roger Hallam, (a self styled prophet currently in jail, who claims that his “Extinction Rebellion” cause is based on “Common Sense”), plus the discredited research of Prof. Wallace Smith Broecker of the Columbia University Earth Sciences Laboratory, once known as the “Grandfather of Climate Change”. The following is easy to find for anyone who uses a bit of REAL research and REAL “COMMON SENSE”. It is a small part of what are known as the Milankovitch cycles.

The Axis of the Earth is currently moving “upright” in relation to its orbit as part of its perfectly normal “wobble”, known as Axial precession. It is moving at approximately 14.5 metres a year. This means that those imaginary circles around the planet, the Arctic Circle, the Antarctic Circle are both moving closer to their respective poles by that amount. Also, the imaginary lines of the tropics, Cancer and Capricorn, are both moving at the same speed towards the Equator. This is resulting in the position of the Sun in the sky is over the tropics for longer, and is moving slower between the two extremes of its apparent travel, resulting in changes to tropical winds and monsoons.

As a result, in the Arctic and Antarctic it means that the Sun is actually getting higher in the sky in the summer, meaning that it is warming more of the Earth’s surface at the poles as it has done for around 6.5 thousand years. The current angle at the time of writing is 23.26 degrees. The variation in the angle of Axis is from 22.1 degrees to 24.5 degrees. (The full cycle of the Wobble takes around 26, 000 years.) This is on of the major reasons polar ice is melting and ice caps receding, although there are variations due to other Earth forces like earthquakes, volcanoes and tectonic plate movement.

As the wobble is about half way through this upright bound portion, it means the temperatures at the polar regions will keep increasing for about another 6,000 years, until the angle gets to approximately 22.1 degrees and starts increasing again for another 13,000 years to make it all cold again, but it has been doing this for over four billion years with no ill effect to life on Earth.

Hi Duncan.
I am not sure of your stance on Climate Change
But I don’t believe in Climate Change at all.
It used to be Global Warming.
I like many other New Zealanders are really encouraged by the results of this poll as it shows that we have not all been brainwashed by the UN sanctioned “climate scientist”
If the world has got warmer by 1 degree in over 200 years of industrialization, then I don’t think we have too much to worry about.
Better to worry more about the 70 coal fired power station in Vietnam and the ten new ones they are building.
Indian and China have only promised the Paris accord that they will try to reduce their emissions after 2030!
So we need to back off our farmers.
Pullout of the Paris Accord
Cancel the ETS
And just get on with our lives.